In a new Dazed & Confused short film the English art director and graphic designer Peter Saville, who is also known for his record sleeves for Factory Records (most notably for Joy Division and New Order) which he designed during the 80s, and Belgian fashion designer and Creative Director of Dior Raf Simons speak about their multidisciplinary works. Shot during Raf Simons’ Spring/Summer 2014 show at Gagosian Gallery in Paris, both look back on their lives which have been ranging between the disciplines ever since, right in the in-between space dividing design and high art, pop and modernism, fashion and music.

In 2003 Peter Saville and Raf Simons began working together when the fashion designer used images from Peter Saville’s archive in his Autumn/Winter 2003 Collection. Not long after Raf Simons presented his newest creations for Spring/Summer 2014, Dazed published this short film, called “An Ideal for Living,” in which ”these two giants of late 20th, early 21st century design talk about the term ‘interzone’ – the word popularised by Peter’s friends Joy Division (and William Burroughs) about the liminal place they merrily plumb.”